JOHN 6:4, The PASSOVER Passage, FOUND in MS 472 ~ REFUTING Michael Rood . . . Point by Point

GREEK MS 472 with John 6:4

 And the Passover, the feast of the Jews was nigh. John 6:4

Michael Rood declares MANY points as "facts" in his discussion of the OMISSION of John 6:4. 

BUT . . .  he did not LOOK at the real FACTS , 

true FACTS as found in the very Greek manuscripts he cites ! 

 

ἦν δὲ ἐγγὺς τὸ πάσχα, ἡ ἑορτὴ τῶν Ἰουδαίων.

 And the Passover, the feast of the Jews was nigh. John 6:4

John 6:4 in Greek MS 472 is  at the red arrows. The manuscript page number 354 is CIRCLED in red at bottom right hand corner. Image is courtesy of  INTF and the Lambeth Palace Library and can be found online at this link, for better viewing:

http://images.lambethpalacelibrary.org.uk/luna/servlet/detail/LPLIBLPL~17~17~177134~124172?page=44&qvq=lc:LPLIBLPL~17~17&mi=44&trs=220

MS 472 at Lambeth Palace , London, catalogued as MS1177 

If using this link, you will need to move the horizontal scroll bar at the bottom of the page to 184 / 220.  John VI  is on digital page 184, right side, on manuscript page 354, which is visible in the bottom right corner.

 NOTE THIS: The LAMBETH PALACE museum in London numbers this manuscript with their shelf number of MS 1177, which is GREEK NEW TESTAMENT MS 472. The INTF lists the Lambeth Palace number on their information sheet for MS 472 at this link: GREEK MS 472 ~ Information at Kurt Aland's INFT in Muenster, Germany  

 If the link does not work, here is the address: 

 https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/liste/?ObjID=30472

Michael Rood declares MANY points to be "facts" in his discussion of the OMISSION of John 6:4. 

John 6:4

[ And the Passover, the feast of the Jews was nigh.] 

ἦν δὲ ἐγγὺς τὸ πάσχα, ἡ ἑορτὴ τῶν Ἰουδαίων.

LITERAL GREEK: 

was being but near the PASCHA the feast of the Judeans ( Jews).  

In English idiom: 

But was being near, the Passover, the feast of the Judean Jews . 

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Here is a keen look at another of these "facts" which Mr. Rood puts forth on page 9 of the introduction of his The Chronological Gospels.

( The full name of his "corrected" KJV is: The Chronological Gospels , The Acceptable Year of The LORD, The Life and Seventy Week Ministry of the Messiah. 2013 Aviv Moon Publishing, P.O. Box 1559, Fort Mill, SC 29716, Soft Cover Edition ISBN-13-978-0-9895281-1-5 )

He declares that Greek Manuscript 472 does NOT have John 6:4 in it. 

Why is this so important to Mr. Rood ?

Michael Rood's one-year ministry of Y'SHUA ha MOSHIACH can be established

 ONLY

if the Passover mentioned in John 6:4 is found NOT TO EXIST in the ancient Greek manuscripts.

Here are the FACTS about MS 472: 

MS 472 is a minor manuscript dated variously by scholars to be of either the 11th, 12th/13th, or 15th century(ies). 

 

It is  hand-written in minuscule letters with many jots and squiggles and abbreviated words, especially at the end of a line in order to make the words of a verse all fit onto that line. 

 

The letters are not consistently made and oftentimes crookedly placed on the parchment, but the manuscript is legible.

 

 At the "sunburst" asterisk, the first underlined Greek word is ἦν ("was being").  

 

In this minuscule, the Greek letter Eta ἦ is written like a lower case "h" and the N ν  is written like an upside down "h" ! 

 

The second underlined word is δὲ ( "and, but "), with a sloppy slanted line coming down from the "d" to the "e".  

 

The third word is  ἐγγὺς  ( " near, nigh") . 

These Greek letters were  formed on this manuscript with the cursive style that was in vogue during the 11th-14th century, with the "g" looking like a "check-mark" and the first "eg" written together. 

The "top limb" of the E stretches up to meet the high point of the "check-mark" of the G. 

At the end of "eggus" , the "us" was also joined together. Again , that was the style used in the cursives of those centuries. 

[ SEE these styles listed and dated, on the Transcribing Charts on page 23 and 27 of Bruce Manning Metzger's classical work: Manuscripts of the Greek Bible, An introduction to Greek Palaeography ( New York: Oxford University Press, 1991, Corrected Edition.)

The fourth word is τὸ ( "the", nominative).

The fifth word, encircled in red, is  πάσχα ( ("Passover"), the key word in the verse. Although the letters are blurry in this photo, the letter which sets the identity of this word is the "X" , the Greek Chi.

The sixth word is ἡ ( "the", feminine form, nominative, singular ). Again, we see a lower case "h" is used for the Greek letter Eta.

The seventh word is ἑορτὴ ( "feast"). The Eta is written as a lower case "h".

The eighth word is   τῶν ( "of the " ~ Genitive plural form). The "t" is visible, but the loops of the omega are bunched together. The N is a capital letter this time instead of an upside-down "h". 

 

And the last , ninth , word is Ἰουδαίων  ("Judeans", which is commonly translated as "Jews" ~ meaning the more educated, sophisticated, wealthier Jews of Jerusalem and Judea, versus the people of the land, the am ha ertez. )  

 

This Greek word is truncated , with an Ἰ-υ δ and the "d" has a long tail added to it, ending the whole word with an "a" with a semi-circle around it ! 

 

 With some effort, one can decipher the last two words of John 6: 3 ( τῶν μαθητῶν αὐτοῦ  ) above it and  the first phrase of John 6:5 below it. The words for "great crowd", πολὺς ὄχλος , of John 6:5 are  visible at the bottom of  this enlarged section. 

There it is. 

John 6:4 in GK MS 472.

A Word about the sunburst Asterisk 

  

Editor's Note: After publishing this post, I inquired about NA 26th apparatus note at John 6:4, that MS 472 omitted John 6:4.  Mr. Greg Poulson at INTF answered my inquiry.  Here is his reply:

Thank you for your message. The citation of 472 for omitting Jn 6:4 is a mistake and was corrected in the NA27. Here's an image of 472 to see that it does actually have this verse: https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/modules/papyri/?site=INTF&image=30472/420494/3620/20/1512

In the NA27, 1634 is cited as omitting Jn 6:4, which is accurate. The omission is likely due to this verse not being read during liturgy. See here: https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/modules/papyri/?site=INTF&image=31634/420494/4100/10/2934

RE: JOHN 6:4 in MS 472 ( INTF = 30472)

16/01/20 09:17 as a reply to Sister Judith Hannah.

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Perhaps the asterisk by John 6:4 in MS 472, then, seems to be something to indicate a  Lectionary usage, either starting or stopping ? / SrJH

BUT . . . WHAT DID MR. ROOD

 state about this passage?  

~  more to come  ~